Doctor Mike

I think it's the power of it that gets missed, I think, a lot of the time.

People think of it as just something that happens online and stays online, but it doesn't now.

It becomes a lot bigger.

Well, I think...

you want to operate in the realm of facts and truth and expertise.

And so the idea that there are you know, very large,

groups of people that are simply resistant to that, where that just isn't the thing that matters anymore, where there is an entire alternate constellation of what they would consider to be experts and telling them what they would consider to be truths is something that is incredibly frustrating to many people in the scientific community.

One of the things that I hear a lot when I talk to physicians

I was on this thing called the Lancet Commission.

It had maybe a, there were many Lancet Commissions.

I don't remember what the full name of this one was, but it was operating during COVID.

And one of the things that, there were a lot of physicians on it and then me.

One of the things, one of the papers we wrote was on sort of social media.

And I think there is a sense from people

in people outside of the social media field where the solution to what I've just described, eating the pets or health misinformation is like, well, obviously the platform should just be moderating it.

They should just be dealing with it.

That's a social media problem.

And there's a desire for some sort of like a neat solution, right?

Well, you should just put a fact check on that, obviously, because there is a fact and we know the fact and

When we can show that there's nobody eating the pets, people should stop believing that they're eating the pets because this is an irrational belief and they shouldn't believe it anymore.