Dom Harvey

And there can be like a fine line between that and confidence.

That's a great, can you repeat that line again?

I think it's worth repeating.

I've never heard that before.

Shit, that's so good.

What makes a great coach-athlete relationship truly effective at the highest level?

I don't know if you know Craig Kirkwood or Hayden Wilde yes yes of course yeah so they had a long term I've actually got an episode recorded with Craig which will probably be out before this one but they had a long relationship and they sort of parted ways not on any bad terms or anything but just because Hayden wanted to explore if there's another I suppose level to the game yeah what do you think about something like that is that a reasonable thing is that understandable an athlete of that

Do you want to go out for a run or a ride?

He's a savage, eh?

Like, I had him on the podcast real early on on the piece, and he sent me a voice note while he was out mountain biking.

And just about had it paused like halfway through the voice note because he was riding over a tree trunk or something.

He's just like...

Just type two fun all day, every day.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, to timestamp this conversation, just the weekend before, Sam Ruth did like a 353 mile at the age of 16.

What the fuck?

Is he...

He's likely to be New Zealand's best middle distance runner.

Well, since you know Hayden, what would you like to see him do beyond triathlon?

More than 21 hours a week?