Dom Harvey

And your boyfriend at the time had to wear suits as well.

Yeah, I've heard you describe yourself as a capitalist, feminist and philanthropist.

Was that when you first encountered any sort of sexism, once you got out of the family home?

And then no doubt you encountered a lot through your career.

I believe you want to be a merchant banker and...

That's fascinating.

They told you over the phone that they didn't put it in writing.

That says to me they knew it was bad.

They didn't want to put it in writing.

Very clever.

Yeah.

Unbelievable.

And then, so you're working at National Mutual in your 20s.

Yeah.

And this is when you suffer your first experience with burnouts?

You suffered another bout of burnout later on when you were at Telecom.

Because the woman sitting in front of me today, she seems to have a tremendous amount of energy, and you're doing so much work.

But I suppose you've just got the, I don't know, the muscle memory, if that's the term, the capacity to do all this work, which seems crazy to me, but it's a lifetime of...

You've got to do things with your money that brings you joy.

Yeah.