Domenico Montanaro

and that the company's CEO is married to former DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.

We should note that NPR has not independently verified this reporting.

In fact, the ad with her on horseback is very reminiscent of a similar ad that that group ran where she was just kind of galloping across the state in her reelection bid.

You know, in the context, though, is what happened in Minnesota, obviously.

You know, the harsh tactics that ICE and other federal agencies have undertaken where you had two American citizens killed at the hands of federal agents.

That became such a big scandal that –

It became what the White House saw as a messaging problem.

And a lot of Republicans on Capitol Hill, what they've said is that this was an issue that Republicans should have a 20-point advantage on when it comes to immigration.

They feel Trump won on that issue.

They think that immigration and border security is something that Trump should be able to tout and that the party should be able to benefit from.

But instead, they wind up on a negative front.

I think an important thing to note here, though, is that her ouster isn't necessarily an indication of change in policy.

by the Trump administration.

It's really about the message that Trump doesn't like the optics of how his immigration policy has been played out in public and feels that this, at least moving her off the scene as a public face of this, maybe will change the perception and maybe refocus on border policy.

But, Tam, you could probably tell us why that is.

I mean, the fact is it's not because Trump is suddenly more loyal to his cabinet members.

It's maybe partially because he understands the job of the presidency and the type of people he's brought in, right?

President Trump now says that Kristi Noem is going to be the special envoy for the Shield of the Americas.

That keeps her close, but doesn't allow her to kind of be a former who's out there speaking to anybody.

Well, I was going to say as a senator, you know, he's inherently disciplined when it comes to messaging because his politicians had to win statewide.