Dominic Sandbrook

No, nothing to worry there.

They would know there was nothing to worry about.

Actually, I have to say, as we'll discover next time, two more different people than Ruminyawi and Jimmy Carter could not be imagined.

I mean, Ruminyawi would never appear on TV in a cardigan to tell you to turn the thermostat down.

He would turn you into a drum.

That's what he would do.

There's a little preview for the next episode.

So, rumours start to flood into Kayamaka that Ruminyawi is on his way south.

So, one local chief says to Pizarro,

Men are coming under a great commander called Ruminyawi, 200,000 people from Quito, and 30,000 Caribs who eat human flesh.

Yeah.

And the Spanish, of course, take this seriously.

Why wouldn't they?

It's kind of mad that the Atahualpas armies haven't attacked them.

And surely they think only a matter of time before Atahualpa's armies decide they're going to try and rescue him.

That's exactly right.

I mean, that's ultimately the decision.

They can't make up their minds.

And Pizarro, I think, in particular, is very conflicted.

They want to go to Crisco to get more gold.