Dominic Sandbrook

This leads me to believe, by the way, that he's not Apu.

Because if you'd been hanging around at a shawl pretending to sell trinkets and then you return, you would look shamefaced, I think.

He's brought them some nice gifts, though.

He's brought them two pots that are shaped as forts, weirdly, and some skinned ducks.

And the Spanish take the gifts.

And it's amusing, actually.

The Spanish are convinced these must have some secret meaning.

They're overthinking.

So they're kind of staring at the pot.

They're massively overthinking it.

They're like, do the pots mean there are a lot of castles?

And what about the ducks?

They will skin us alive.

That's what the Spanish say.

They think that they're going to be skinned alive like the ducks.

Actually, I think he's just giving them something to eat.

Anyway, Sikinchara spends two days in the camp.

He makes a note of everything.

And finally, he says to Pizarro, listen, the emperor would like you to continue to Kayamaka and he will greet you personally.

And Pizarro's like, brilliant, this is what he wants.