Dominic Sandbrook

I don't understand, personally.

Yeah, but I think some of this is unfair, actually.

So...

There are very few public figures of Churchill's generation about whom we know more.

So almost everything, when Churchill came to your house for dinner, or when you met him, it was a great moment because he's an exciting personality.

And he says very provocative, outspoken, and often outrageous things.

And so people would make a note of them.

And often Churchill would be showing off.

He would be trying to shock.

So he would say things to sort of dinner parties of Edwardian liberals or something about Indians.

And I think he would be doing it often deliberately to needle the more bien pensant members of the company.

Well, I mean, we all know columnists who specialize in this.

I'm not averse to doing it myself, quite frankly.

And I think...

No.

No, the headline did not go far enough.

We should have fought against terrorists and regicides.

We should have, if we had, our ancestral enemies are obviously, everyone in this room knows this, they're our friends and neighbors across the channel.

This was the chance.

Finish them off once and for all.