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Dominic Sandbrook

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The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

And he really hates the Dardanelles scheme.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

Fisher says, this is absolutely insane.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

The only way this could work is if you landed 200,000, it would take 200,000 men to secure the coastline so you could get your ships through the strait.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

And frankly, we don't have enough men to send 200,000 men.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

Churchill doesn't listen to him.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

Fisher is more and more enraged.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

He goes to see Lloyd George's secretary stroke mistress, Frances Stevenson.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

And he says, we are trying, people at the Admiralty are trying to argue with Churchill.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

And I quote, but he simply overrides them and talks them down.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

If he continues his domineering course, they fear there may be a catastrophe.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

But Fisher's not good at the internal politics and Churchill is.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

So when they have meetings, Churchill's very excited and ebullient and tells everybody about his scheme.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

Fisher sits there sulking, staring out of the window, you know, irritable, difficult.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

So people don't listen to him.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

They listen to Churchill instead.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

So anyway, they sign off on the scheme.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

On the 19th of February, Admiral Carden's fleet, combined British and French fleet, launches the first stage of the operation.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

So the French have joined as well?

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

The French are involved as well, exactly.

The Rest Is History
675. The First World War: Slaughter at Gallipoli (Part 5)

In much smaller numbers, nobody ever talks about the French at Gallipoli, but there are French ships and there will in due course be French troops.