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Dominic Sandbrook

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The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

In his brilliant book, The Conquest of the Incas, John Hemming makes the excellent point that basically, in most places the Europeans conquered, Europeans had arrived multiple times before they actually turned up for good.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

You know, missionaries had come, traders, envoys.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

What's very unusual about the conquest of Peru is basically the Spanish do it all in one go.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So these generals have literally never seen a European.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

They've never heard of a European until they hear some mad guys with beards have turned up and captured the emperor.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

They didn't even know Europe existed.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

As we will see, they didn't even look the emperor in the eye.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

The emperor doesn't meet their eye when he talks to them.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So the idea that these guys would have laid hands on him, dragged him out of his litter, and then forced him to sleep next to them, that's surely the biggest twist of all.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Now, you mentioned that Huascar was being brought north under guard.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

In a cage, yes.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So Pizarro, when Atahualpa tells him this, Pizarro says, do not harm your brother because Pizarro obviously thinks, wow, if I get both of them, I can make them fight.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Well, we sleep with one on each side.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Who knows?

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

But Atahualpa has no intention of allowing his brother to fall into the Spanish hands because, of course, he worries that they might prefer his brother.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So he sends orders to the people who are bringing Huascar up at a place called Andamarca, which is south of Cayamarca in the mountains.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Huascar is murdered by his guards and his body is thrown into the river.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Exactly right.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And it's also a good example of how Atahualpa is not this sort of martyr, saintly martyr.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Atahualpa is a very hard man.