Dominic Sandbrook

So two obvious questions, what kind of people join it and where?

So first of all, the Klan does not thrive in places where there are lots and lots of Republicans, for obvious reasons.

If it's a place that backed the Union in the Civil War, for example, in the Appalachians, in the mountains where there are no plantations, there are never going to be many people to join the Klan.

There just aren't enough Confederates.

Also, people aren't going to set up a clan somewhere where they are massively outnumbered by African Americans, by freedmen.

So in the Mississippi Delta, in the Mississippi Delta, black people outnumber white by three to one.

You'd be mad to set up the clan there because really, you know, you'd get beaten up.

You'd be on the wrong side of that fight.

Basically, the clan ends up being set up where black and white populations are roughly equal or where whites are slightly outnumbered.

The whites, by and large, they have access to weapons and better weapons.

They are richer.

They are more powerful.

They are better connected.

They have more resources.

You know, all of those kinds of things.

Sheriffs, judges, all of those kinds of things.

They have all the levers of power.

Because all that has changed, to some degree, I mean, it's a massive change, is that people who were once slaves are no longer slaves.

They're still living on the land.

They're still living in kind of...