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Dominic Sandbrook

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The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Basically, if Atahualpa can honor this, we'll get the gold.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Because he's our prisoner and because people are bringing the gold, he'll be acquiescing in our overlordship.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

We'll turn him into our collaborator.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

We won't be attacked by his armies.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And in the meantime, we can get reinforcements from Panama or even from Spain.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Now, this is important because Atahualpa, I think, has no sense of the Spanish army.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

are the first of many.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

He thinks they are brigands, raiders, pirates.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

I don't think it ever occurs to him or indeed to any of the Incas that more of these bearded men will come in their floating castles or whatever they call them.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Yeah, exactly.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

right he's still i think a really important point actually that you made there is i think he is trapped by the context of the civil war intellectually he sees everything through the prism of his struggle with huasca of finishing off the civil war and then cementing his control over the empire yeah and the spanish are not exactly an irritation they're more they're obviously more than that but they're a factor aren't they yes they're a factor the wider story is he sees it

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

is the Civil War, which he thinks the Spanish don't really understand.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

I think the Spanish think the Civil War is an incidental detail in their big story.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And we will see who's right.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

We will see who's right.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So the orders are sent out across the empire.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Send your gold and silver to Caramarca.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And in the meantime, Atahualpa settles down to wait with Pizarro and the other conquistadors.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And again, it is very similar to the stories of Cortes and Co.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

with Montezuma.