Dominic Sramaty

And I didn't like that call because if you go back to Montreal-Tampa and the overtime winning goal in Game 2, Doc is trying to get out to the point to Moser, and Kucherov puts a stick on him.

And it could be interference.

And I remember asking Kevin and Jennifer, who I was working with, do you think that's a penalty?

And they were both like, no, that's a face-off.

That's what happens.

And I'm like, okay.

But to me, if Kucherov, his play is okay, then what happened with Bathurston and Martinuk is okay.

But Martinuk goes down.

And so they call a penalty.

And this whole thing says to me is that the referees, when it comes to players falling, they're battling.

They're really battling about are these dives or are these legitimate trips?

And the McKinnon penalty...

That was perfect evidence to me is that these guys are really in tune to it and they want to nail somebody for it.

They want these players to stop because they think it's a problem.

Did you see him smash a stick on the empty netter?

Yeah, okay.

So I watched Real Kipper and Born on Thursday before I went into work, and Nick had some really interesting stuff, and I know a lot of it went viral.

And I don't really have a lot to disagree with about him, what he said, and hopefully I can fill in some blanks here.

So I have more clarity since our last pod.

I said the finalists were Ryan Martin from the Rangers, Scott White from the Dallas Stars, and either John Chyka or Evan Gold from the Bruins.