Dominic

Well, you know, that feature you just got there, Go and Rust, C++ has already assimilated it, and your science will service them.

They just wait. They're like, what are they doing?

They just wait. They're like, what are they doing?

Rust in the Linux kernel? Okay, we need to do something here.

Rust in the Linux kernel? Okay, we need to do something here.

Well, so it's like all of C++. Those who use it will use it. And many people are stuck on like C++. Then, you know, whatever it is. I forgot the exact most common standard here. But think Android. A lot of people aren't using the latest and greatest.

Well, so it's like all of C++. Those who use it will use it. And many people are stuck on like C++. Then, you know, whatever it is. I forgot the exact most common standard here. But think Android. A lot of people aren't using the latest and greatest.

Not C++, right?

Not C++, right?

Right, but with that said, there's tons of embedded C++, and those tend to be newer projects. I mean I see no reason if you were starting Greenfield. Well, let's cool our love a little bit, right? Let's leave some room for Jesus. We don't need to be bumping and grinding on the new standard just yet. It is not, in fact, the new standard yet. It's a proposal. There's a lot of stakeholders.

Right, but with that said, there's tons of embedded C++, and those tend to be newer projects. I mean I see no reason if you were starting Greenfield. Well, let's cool our love a little bit, right? Let's leave some room for Jesus. We don't need to be bumping and grinding on the new standard just yet. It is not, in fact, the new standard yet. It's a proposal. There's a lot of stakeholders.

We know how they like to grip their stakes like Van Helsing. That's why they're holders. They hold tight, baby. I think it's probably going to... So the problem is they can't not do something like this. Whether it gets changed in the process is possible. Adoption level...

We know how they like to grip their stakes like Van Helsing. That's why they're holders. They hold tight, baby. I think it's probably going to... So the problem is they can't not do something like this. Whether it gets changed in the process is possible. Adoption level...

think it's gonna be pretty high of people doing greenfield projects everything else and for the overall ecosystem it's gonna be pretty low i mean that's actually more positive than i expected from you well it's it's the android developer problem that we talked about for years and years when you know that was a thing we cared about where yeah these apis are great but you have to target what you have to target it's a little different in c++ world because really what you're targeting is your enterprise's legacy system that was written in like

think it's gonna be pretty high of people doing greenfield projects everything else and for the overall ecosystem it's gonna be pretty low i mean that's actually more positive than i expected from you well it's it's the android developer problem that we talked about for years and years when you know that was a thing we cared about where yeah these apis are great but you have to target what you have to target it's a little different in c++ world because really what you're targeting is your enterprise's legacy system that was written in like

Yeah, exactly. But it's – I don't know. I keep – for the things I need it for, I had my flirtation with Rust. I do like Rust. I haven't really looked at Go other than a bit for the show and a couple small things just to play around with. I don't see why I wouldn't. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly. But it's – I don't know. I keep – for the things I need it for, I had my flirtation with Rust. I do like Rust. I haven't really looked at Go other than a bit for the show and a couple small things just to play around with. I don't see why I wouldn't. Do you know what I mean?

If I had to write a small data processing or whatever package for Alice, why wouldn't I just go ahead and use the memory safety features?

If I had to write a small data processing or whatever package for Alice, why wouldn't I just go ahead and use the memory safety features?

We should mention the big Washington State elephant in the room here. So when is Microsoft's C++ compiler going to adopt this when it eventually comes out as a standard? Because for our dark matter friends out there, that's a pretty big chunk of the C++ market.