Dominic

I think he taps something huge.

A sense that you know the country had changed so much in the previous ten years things spiraling out of control and people yearned for a kind of reassurance Traditional they saw its traditional values a sense of solidarity all of those kinds of things they felt that he and his Sort of faction offered.

What about the last photo that you've got of a bass?

This is armed mullahs marching past the Ayatollah's house.

I

What I like about this, there were lots of photos taken in the Iranian Revolution.

I mean, photographers were always drawn to the women in their kind of black cloaks and their khadors.

I mean, so much of the imagery of that was really unsettling to Westerners because they saw it as part of the oppression of women, more not understandably.

But it's interesting how prominent women are now in these photos.

Yeah, with the guns.

Nobody's smiling.

Everybody's grim-faced.

Yeah.

Can I ask one more question about Abbas and his photographs of the Iranian Revolution?

How important is it, do you think, that they are black and white?

It's the black and white images that seem to linger in the mind, isn't it?

I mean, that's it.

Everyone else is in black.

Can I just ask you a quick question before we move on to the next revolution?

So, the tension between black and white and colour and photography...