Don Bacon

There's two or three possibilities. I think one I've read too, like you say, they see Xi, Putin, and him as the three big spheres of influence. Mm-hmm. People will fall within one or the other. I think he sees us as North America, which is a shame if you're a European and you want to be under the sphere of Putin. But I don't know that that's really true.

That's what some people think that other people see strictly as transactionalist, like you already mentioned. It's clearly a total realist. and that he doesn't have an idealism DNA in there.

That's what some people think that other people see strictly as transactionalist, like you already mentioned. It's clearly a total realist. and that he doesn't have an idealism DNA in there.

That's what some people think that other people see strictly as transactionalist, like you already mentioned. It's clearly a total realist. and that he doesn't have an idealism DNA in there.

I think 100% realism is not good, though, I don't think. I'm the guy that you have to have realism because you've got to defend your country, know your interests. But I also want to make country. stands for good. You know, the free markets, democracy, freedom, rule of law, those are things that we believe in, and we have been the largest proponents of in the world after World War II.

I think 100% realism is not good, though, I don't think. I'm the guy that you have to have realism because you've got to defend your country, know your interests. But I also want to make country. stands for good. You know, the free markets, democracy, freedom, rule of law, those are things that we believe in, and we have been the largest proponents of in the world after World War II.

I think 100% realism is not good, though, I don't think. I'm the guy that you have to have realism because you've got to defend your country, know your interests. But I also want to make country. stands for good. You know, the free markets, democracy, freedom, rule of law, those are things that we believe in, and we have been the largest proponents of in the world after World War II.

We've built, you know, roughly 80 years of this international rules, and they've worked. And it's what we like.

We've built, you know, roughly 80 years of this international rules, and they've worked. And it's what we like.

We've built, you know, roughly 80 years of this international rules, and they've worked. And it's what we like.

This is Chuck. It's been America's century. It's been our century. And we should not feel ashamed at all about it. God's been good to us. And so I totally agree with what you're saying. Even this balance of trade, I mean, you could dig into that, that The fact is, we're the wealthiest nation in the world. We have the ability to buy things we want. We like scotch. We like Bordeaux wine.

This is Chuck. It's been America's century. It's been our century. And we should not feel ashamed at all about it. God's been good to us. And so I totally agree with what you're saying. Even this balance of trade, I mean, you could dig into that, that The fact is, we're the wealthiest nation in the world. We have the ability to buy things we want. We like scotch. We like Bordeaux wine.

This is Chuck. It's been America's century. It's been our century. And we should not feel ashamed at all about it. God's been good to us. And so I totally agree with what you're saying. Even this balance of trade, I mean, you could dig into that, that The fact is, we're the wealthiest nation in the world. We have the ability to buy things we want. We like scotch. We like Bordeaux wine.

We like Central American cigars.

We like Central American cigars.

We like Central American cigars.

Probably a 15%... increases the cost of coffee, which is a shame. But, you know, that's your point. This is America's country, and I don't want to walk away from it. I'd like to see America remain the leader of the free world, a humble leader of the free world, where we work with NATO, Japan, Australia, to counter Russia and China, Iran.

Probably a 15%... increases the cost of coffee, which is a shame. But, you know, that's your point. This is America's country, and I don't want to walk away from it. I'd like to see America remain the leader of the free world, a humble leader of the free world, where we work with NATO, Japan, Australia, to counter Russia and China, Iran.

Probably a 15%... increases the cost of coffee, which is a shame. But, you know, that's your point. This is America's country, and I don't want to walk away from it. I'd like to see America remain the leader of the free world, a humble leader of the free world, where we work with NATO, Japan, Australia, to counter Russia and China, Iran.

We can't do it by ourselves, but we can do it with Japan and NATO. And I see us right now sort of walking away from that, that we're going to be isolationists. We're just going to worry about ourselves. And it's going to be us against the world when it comes to the economy and tariffs. That's the more dangerous world. And I don't see that as a positive direction at all.