Don Goodman

It's not a football problem.

But the footballers that you've mentioned clearly have a large audience, a big social media presence, a voice in the public domain.

And it is important that people in the public eye understand

Keep the problem in the public eye until we can get together and try and move forward and find some solutions to this.

Yeah, absolutely, because the problem is ignorance, you know, pure and simple ignorance in society.

And, you know, I remember the incident.

Well, you know, I'm a black guy that grew up in a generation of Alf Garnett and love thy neighbor and so on and so forth, where it was a bit of a bit of a joke, a bit of lightheartedness because it was the norm back then.

Society's changed.

Life has changed.

And we move forward now where society,

Situations like you and I found ourselves in are not really acceptable in the slightest.

And I remember the shock on your face, but it was something that I'd experienced before and I knew how to handle it.

But it's wrong and it's a lack of education on so many people's part.

Morning, Mark.

We did a Sky Sports podcast a couple of weeks ago, so I had a real hard look at the leagues in the EFL, and it was clear that League One was the problem league, really, where it's so tight at the top in terms of the playoffs.

In the bottom, you've just built up a little bit of a run of form.

The fact is, the finances are going to say that the league will not finish other than the playoffs for promotion.

So I think everybody accepts your...

your feeling of pain, really.

If this points per game leads to Tranmere being relegated, it probably would be one of only two or three genuine injustices in League 1 or 2 that actually occur.