Don Marshall

And we see that.

We see some moments where, you know, so-and-so had lost all hope, but not yet despair.

And you're like, oh, well, that's what Tolkien's trying to explain here.

this this he is in despair this is yeah beyond that this is you know the negative hope so yeah yeah he very in despair he sheds his armor and his weapons and remember that's 21 miles in five hours while fully armed and armored that's a good point very impressive that's a very impressive point i mean yeah especially after the march because he would have been armed and armored then as well yeah yeah and then uh goes to dive into the river

He does keep one small sword.

This is interesting.

The footnote explains it's something called an eket, and it's described as a short stabbing sword with a broad blade pointed and two edged from a foot to one and a half feet long.

And from that description, the short stabbing sword broad blade pointed both edged.

That sounds like a small version of the classic Gladius, right?

The one worn by ancient Roman soldiers.

They had slightly longer blades, 18 to 27 inches typically, but they were stabbing swords with a broad blade and they were double edged.

So I think we have another question to ask Brett next week.

Certainly do.

Certainly do.

So now that Isildur is in the water though, we are reminded of,

what a person, what a specimen Isildur is, even though he is 234 years old.

He is described as having strength and endurance that few men could match, even of his peers.

But he's just covered 21 miles.

Again, in five hours, he is exhausted as any fit or athletic person I think would be.

I mean, this is like a really fit athlete having just done an Ironman triathlon.