Don Wildman

essentially an apprentice kind of thing.

But this is very specifically and hatefully.

So a system about people who look a certain way and therefore we project upon them a status.

Exactly.

Yeah.

It's really important to distinguish that.

Well, and, you know, as generations go on, soon we have African-Americans, you know, we have whole generations who are born and raised here and then many others after that.

It happens fairly soon because Americans, I mean, because human beings procreate that we have an entire population who has, you know, only been living as an enslaved population as their fathers and forefathers were before them.

It's incredible.

But when do we become aware of that identity among Americans?

Sure.

There's a merging that goes on with West African traditions.

It's fascinating, especially when you go to New Orleans and talk about it there.

The West African religions marrying up with Christianity and all the music and religious practices.

It's amazing how this culture...

Despite the oppression and cruelty still sort of flowers underneath of that and then rises up later on for sure.

When does the notion of white supremacy first begin to emerge and how does that even stick?

Because that's absolutely necessary in this equation.

Sure.

Yeah.