Don Wildman

But I hasten to add, he is undeniably sophisticated, intelligent, humorous.

Even at the time when he was supposedly scaring me, this guy is a compelling individual.

And that's what you see when you watch anything you can watch.

And I invite people to do that.

He's an amazing human being.

And you know that when he walks in the room.

I see.

Interesting.

Yes, this is a big break for him.

The thing with Malcolm X's life is it all happens in such a compressed way.

When you look back on it, it seems like we're talking about a decade's worth of time here.

From complete conversion to huge national leadership to a break with that organization which he has developed so much.

And now, you know, there are only a few years left of his life.

It's amazing.

Is it a direct conflict between Elijah Muhammad and him?

Yes.

During this time, he decides to found his own version of this, right?

He breaks away completely and creates his own organization called the Muslim Mosque Incorporated.

Is that right?

That's correct.