Don Wildman

To this day, the Rangers are part of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

They are a division of all of that.

The famous incident we should point out, which gets a lot of notoriety, former Texas Ranger Frank Hamer leads a party of a combination of Texas and Louisiana law officers that hunt down the infamous Bonnie and Clyde, 1934.

Gets a lot of press out of that.

This legend of the Texans Rangers is being, you know, obviously, even within this conversation, we can hear it, a reevaluation of where they're at.

And the controversies of their reputation continue to this day.

I mean, of course, you have all the Dine novels, the Lone Ranger TV series, Walker, Texas Ranger, of course.

But these days, things are being looked at in different light.

Can you explain that process and what's going on today?

Ben Johnson is a professor of history at the Loyola University in Chicago, author of several books I've already mentioned, Texas and American History and Revolution in Texas, How a Forgotten Rebellion and Its Bloody Suppression Turned Mexicans into Americans.

Very complex story.

Those are good books to check when you can.

How can people know what you're doing these days, Ben?

Nice.

Thank you very much for your time.

Appreciate it.

Thanks, Don.

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