Donald Hoffman

And they predict what we now call black holes.

Now, Einstein didn't.

Foresee that?

He didn't like it.

He didn't believe it.

He disbelieved in black holes.

He wanted to get rid of them.

So Einstein's theory came back and surprised him.

And that's why it's so important for us to do science, because what we do is we take our best ideas that we have right now, and then we make them mathematically precise, and then the mathematics comes back and it slaps us in the face and says, here are the implications of the ideas that you started with.

implications that you simply couldn't think deeply enough about on your own, but the mathematics can take you where your own, you know, just consciousness wouldn't necessarily go.

And so here's one of those directions with this notion of conscious agents.

The dynamics need not have increasing entropy.

And so our whole intuition about an arrow of time need not hold in this realm.

So when we talk about the notion of explore, consciousness exploring for the joy of it,

We're going to have to rejig how we think about the notion of – for us, exploration is something that happens in an arrow of time.

What does it mean for us?

Can we wrap our heads around the notion of exploration where we let go of an increasing entropy kind of thing?

I don't know if we can.

Maybe you just have to let go of this headset altogether to really get that.

But is it possible while we're under the limits of this headset to wrap our minds around it?