Donald Hoffman

It's just not all reports are great.

So someone that we know personally had a near-death experience and was very, very pleasurable and came back and has no fear.

She claims to have no fear of death now.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

So yeah, be part of the film that's exploring these near-death experiences.

It's put out the...

I think it's the Langone Medical Center in New York.

There are some cardiologists who are, you know, they work with patients who die.

But with new cardiology techniques, they can keep the heart and the body from deteriorating for quite a long time now, an hour or so.

or maybe longer, and then they can bring these people back.

And so this film is partly directed by a cardiologist who was seeing so many of these experiences that he wanted to document what he's seeing in the ER.

And again, I'm not going to be doctrinaire about it, but I think it's data that shouldn't be ignored.

And how we should interpret it, we should be very careful.

That's right.

It's quite fascinating.

Again, this is exactly the right scientific way to think about it.

This is data, maybe.

If it is data, what does it entail about...

letting go of the headset and what kind of experience we might have afterwards.