Donald Robertson
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
He would still have had some impact, but the most famous thing about Socrates in the ancient world is Plato's Apology and his noble death. When Epictetus, the famous Stoic philosopher who was teaching 400 years later,
He would still have had some impact, but the most famous thing about Socrates in the ancient world is Plato's Apology and his noble death. When Epictetus, the famous Stoic philosopher who was teaching 400 years later,
right so you know like that's Socrates' ancient history to Epictetus he's the most famous quote from Epictetus the most famous quote in all of Stoicism is people are not upset by events but by their opinions about them but no one ever quotes what he says next in the following sentence he says for example death is not intrinsically terrible because if it were Socrates would have been afraid of dying and he wasn't
right so you know like that's Socrates' ancient history to Epictetus he's the most famous quote from Epictetus the most famous quote in all of Stoicism is people are not upset by events but by their opinions about them but no one ever quotes what he says next in the following sentence he says for example death is not intrinsically terrible because if it were Socrates would have been afraid of dying and he wasn't
right so you know like that's Socrates' ancient history to Epictetus he's the most famous quote from Epictetus the most famous quote in all of Stoicism is people are not upset by events but by their opinions about them but no one ever quotes what he says next in the following sentence he says for example death is not intrinsically terrible because if it were Socrates would have been afraid of dying and he wasn't
right? So this is an important argument that you find in Socrates, but it's really highlighted in the Stoics, which is, you know, we use a similar kind of strategy in cognitive therapy. If somebody is depressed or angry or frightened by something, one of the first questions you'd normally ask is, does everyone else feel the same way about it? I mentioned Lamprocles getting angry with his mum.
right? So this is an important argument that you find in Socrates, but it's really highlighted in the Stoics, which is, you know, we use a similar kind of strategy in cognitive therapy. If somebody is depressed or angry or frightened by something, one of the first questions you'd normally ask is, does everyone else feel the same way about it? I mentioned Lamprocles getting angry with his mum.
right? So this is an important argument that you find in Socrates, but it's really highlighted in the Stoics, which is, you know, we use a similar kind of strategy in cognitive therapy. If somebody is depressed or angry or frightened by something, one of the first questions you'd normally ask is, does everyone else feel the same way about it? I mentioned Lamprocles getting angry with his mum.
Socrates says, do other people all find your mum unbearable? Or do certain people view her differently? Socrates himself, for example, viewed it very differently. He got nagged by Xanthropy, but it didn't really bother him, right? So one of the first questions we ask in cognitive therapy are, are other perspectives available, right? Is this the only way of looking at things?
Socrates says, do other people all find your mum unbearable? Or do certain people view her differently? Socrates himself, for example, viewed it very differently. He got nagged by Xanthropy, but it didn't really bother him, right? So one of the first questions we ask in cognitive therapy are, are other perspectives available, right? Is this the only way of looking at things?
Socrates says, do other people all find your mum unbearable? Or do certain people view her differently? Socrates himself, for example, viewed it very differently. He got nagged by Xanthropy, but it didn't really bother him, right? So one of the first questions we ask in cognitive therapy are, are other perspectives available, right? Is this the only way of looking at things?
Or, you know, might you potentially see it differently? Epictetus' main example of that, he goes straight for the jugular, right? He says, we're not upset by things, but by our opinions about them. Even when it comes to death, some people aren't scared of dying. Actually, loads of people aren't scared of dying.
Or, you know, might you potentially see it differently? Epictetus' main example of that, he goes straight for the jugular, right? He says, we're not upset by things, but by our opinions about them. Even when it comes to death, some people aren't scared of dying. Actually, loads of people aren't scared of dying.
Or, you know, might you potentially see it differently? Epictetus' main example of that, he goes straight for the jugular, right? He says, we're not upset by things, but by our opinions about them. Even when it comes to death, some people aren't scared of dying. Actually, loads of people aren't scared of dying.
There are many people I've found, it's one of the weird things, particularly younger people, often find it inconceivable. That someone wouldn't be afraid of dying. But a lot of elderly people are resigned to their own death because they've been bereaved many times and maybe they've had many health scales.
There are many people I've found, it's one of the weird things, particularly younger people, often find it inconceivable. That someone wouldn't be afraid of dying. But a lot of elderly people are resigned to their own death because they've been bereaved many times and maybe they've had many health scales.
There are many people I've found, it's one of the weird things, particularly younger people, often find it inconceivable. That someone wouldn't be afraid of dying. But a lot of elderly people are resigned to their own death because they've been bereaved many times and maybe they've had many health scales.
And so over the space of decades, in some cases, if not all, you speak to elderly people and they say, I've got over it.
And so over the space of decades, in some cases, if not all, you speak to elderly people and they say, I've got over it.
And so over the space of decades, in some cases, if not all, you speak to elderly people and they say, I've got over it.