Donald Robertson

I mean, I think you're actually allowed to have a final meal. He had lots of friends around him when he was being executed, if you can imagine that. That was the norm in Athenian society. Yeah, it was like a party. I suppose there were about 10 or 20 people. So they come and visit him every day in the prison. Weird kind of scenario. But they all gathered round and his family came.

His wife brought his kids. He had a baby. We're told all we know is that Xanthope was carrying one of the children. So scholars think that kind of implies that it was a baby or a toddler. Socrates still got it at 72, 71, 72 years old. Yeah. So they say, you don't have to drink it right away. And he says, it would seem ridiculous of me.

His wife brought his kids. He had a baby. We're told all we know is that Xanthope was carrying one of the children. So scholars think that kind of implies that it was a baby or a toddler. Socrates still got it at 72, 71, 72 years old. Yeah. So they say, you don't have to drink it right away. And he says, it would seem ridiculous of me.

His wife brought his kids. He had a baby. We're told all we know is that Xanthope was carrying one of the children. So scholars think that kind of implies that it was a baby or a toddler. Socrates still got it at 72, 71, 72 years old. Yeah. So they say, you don't have to drink it right away. And he says, it would seem ridiculous of me.

I feel ridiculous in my eyes to kind of try and eke out another half an hour. He's like, I've been here for a month.

I feel ridiculous in my eyes to kind of try and eke out another half an hour. He's like, I've been here for a month.

I feel ridiculous in my eyes to kind of try and eke out another half an hour. He's like, I've been here for a month.

waiting to drink it he goes what am i gonna do with another half you know like so that was his supposedly his thinking was i'm ready like i've prepared myself for this i'd i'd just i'd feel like a coward and it would seem inconsistent of me and ridiculous if i was like yeah yeah you're right maybe i could leak out another hour or so before i have to drink it so i'm ready to drink it

waiting to drink it he goes what am i gonna do with another half you know like so that was his supposedly his thinking was i'm ready like i've prepared myself for this i'd i'd just i'd feel like a coward and it would seem inconsistent of me and ridiculous if i was like yeah yeah you're right maybe i could leak out another hour or so before i have to drink it so i'm ready to drink it

waiting to drink it he goes what am i gonna do with another half you know like so that was his supposedly his thinking was i'm ready like i've prepared myself for this i'd i'd just i'd feel like a coward and it would seem inconsistent of me and ridiculous if i was like yeah yeah you're right maybe i could leak out another hour or so before i have to drink it so i'm ready to drink it

I've been sitting here for a month getting ready to drink it.

I've been sitting here for a month getting ready to drink it.

I've been sitting here for a month getting ready to drink it.

Controversially, yeah. Seneca has always been a divisive and controversial figure. In some ways, he could be compared to Socrates. Socrates had a friend and possibly a lover called Alcibiades, who was one of the most influential statesmen.

Controversially, yeah. Seneca has always been a divisive and controversial figure. In some ways, he could be compared to Socrates. Socrates had a friend and possibly a lover called Alcibiades, who was one of the most influential statesmen.

Controversially, yeah. Seneca has always been a divisive and controversial figure. In some ways, he could be compared to Socrates. Socrates had a friend and possibly a lover called Alcibiades, who was one of the most influential statesmen.

He was appointed the commander-in-chief of the Athenian military at one point, the most senior statesman in Athens, almost like an emperor over what had evolved into an Athenian empire before. And he was like one of Socrates' best friends and closest associates.

He was appointed the commander-in-chief of the Athenian military at one point, the most senior statesman in Athens, almost like an emperor over what had evolved into an Athenian empire before. And he was like one of Socrates' best friends and closest associates.

He was appointed the commander-in-chief of the Athenian military at one point, the most senior statesman in Athens, almost like an emperor over what had evolved into an Athenian empire before. And he was like one of Socrates' best friends and closest associates.

So his relationship with Alcibiades, like trying to get him to be a better ruler and stuff, is a bit like Seneca and his relationship with Nero. But Seneca, I mean... Some people will find this controversial, but although we think of Seneca as a Stoic philosopher, he was famous primarily as an author, not as a philosophy teacher. He probably didn't teach that much philosophy to Nero.