Donald Weinheimer

to basically travel cross-country almost every other week to get to play their games and then come back.

We're entering that part of January where your legs start to get a little tired from all that traveling.

And with a shorter bench, I wonder how Mark Madsen works around that and gets his guys ready to withstand heavy minutes, especially for us having the nine...

person nine deep rotation that we do have even with Darren Harris getting a you know limited number of minutes we're able to remain fresher by just having those guys on there and protecting guys when they're in foul trouble so it's an interesting matchup that's why I asked about the starters because as as we've changed them around I could see John Shire going back to the starters that

we've basically had most of the year.

But there's always questions at the three spot and also how do you line up in the four spot to basically draw their biggest guy away from Cam Boozer and let Cam Boozer do their thing.

Or if you're going to put him on Cam, hopefully that opens up Pat to do his thing like he did the other day.

I want to move to...

the things to watch.

And I want to start with, I, and I, again, I promised us at the top of the show, we have some sound from John Shire.

And I asked John about what it was, what, what they wanted to do out West, because when you go on a road trip and,

It's one thing.

It's a way for your team to kind of come together, walk into an arena where everyone's cheering against you, almost everyone's cheering against you, and figure out a way to win.

And you learn a lot on those road trips about the togetherness of a team.

But this is a different road trip because they're basically on the West Coast.

They left yesterday.

They're going to be on the West Coast all week.

They're playing two games.

They're not coming back between the games.

And it's similar to that road stretch that we had last year.