Donald Wine

I just wanted to say his name, Butter Johnson, at 5.3.

So you have this, again, everything is very evenly spaced out.

They don't look for one particular guy over the other.

And as we go to things to watch, Jason,

There's one thing that you mentioned about offensive rebounding, how they're not great at offensive rebounding because they just like to get the shot off and maybe go back on defense, but they crash five on defense on the boards.

A lot of the times we do have teams like that that aren't super big, especially their guards.

Rebounding position is everything.

And one thing is, despite the fact, and this is even more important if Big Pat can't play, you need to have guys that have the positioning on them because then you don't want to waste fouls on loose ball fouls and over the backs and things like that.

You want to have the positioning so when we do take a shot...

they have to run around you or they have to follow you to get the rebound because part of their whole ethos is they want you to take a bad shot, as you mentioned.

They want to get the rebound, and then they want to just go down and set up the offense.

They're very slow on both ends of the court, so rebounding position is going to be key.

And if we have the guys...

in those positions, we're going to get a lot more of those offensive rebounds than they would expect us to, and that can generate some second-chance points, third-chance points, all those things, those intangibles that we like to see in Duke's favor on the score sheet.

Ball movement.

As I mentioned, this team is the worst in the ACC.

Clemson is at ball movement.

We are one of the best teams in the ACC, despite the fact that until the Pitt game, we hadn't been doing that a lot lately because of our kind of newer focus of being inside the post.

But I think, again, just like the second half of that Pitt game where we were able to move the ball around a lot, get some good shots.

We shot 50% from three in that half against the Panthers.