Donna Ashworth

It's in there though.

I managed to get it in, even the joy book.

Because you can't experience joy properly if you don't experience sadness.

Completely.

And it's so complicated.

And like snowflakes and fingerprints, no two people grieve the same.

So all we can do is help one another, be the glue for one another, patch each other up when we can.

I think it's probably the last little tour that I did because it was a grief tour.

Now, to get people to buy a ticket, to come to a grief night and to knowing that they're going to cry, knowing that it's going to be very difficult, knowing that they're going to have to face their grief, it was such a joyful thing for me because how brave of everybody to come.

You know, I think it was brave of me to put it on because it's not the easiest thing to sell.

Hey, hey, let's come and do... Let's talk about grief all night.

But I knew...

It was going to be the most joyful of all my events.

How many nights did you do?

I only did four.

But there was sort of 500, 600 people and it was joy.

And as soon as it began and I realised that my intuition was correct, it was going to be joyful.

I was just ecstatic.

Because everybody wants to feel, you know, the celebratory aspect of the person that they're missing as well.

But it's so hard.