Donnacha Ó Beacháin

I think that he probably made a rational assessment of his prospects within Fidesz.

I can't speak about his, I guess, personal motivations with any degree of conviction.

He's still a largely unknown quantity.

His own objectives are quite modest.

So, for example, I think he'll remove the veto that Hungary had applied to the 90 billion package going to Ukraine.

I mean, that's the least that could be expected.

But Hungary won't contribute or participate

In that loan itself, he on many fundamentals is at one with Orbán, for example, on things like migration.

He's talking about, of course, reversing some of those democratic, that democratic backsliding that had occurred under Viktor Orbán.

Of course, that's in his own interests.

For example, he gave a speech on state television last night or the other night where he more or less said that state television was going to be completely reformed.

It was fake news, essentially, and that it had been conspiring against him.

It was like North Korea...

You know, that's great to hear because state television was indeed a propagandistic tool of the regime.

But at the same time, it's also in his interests to reform in that way.

So I don't see him as kind of like a major icon of the democratic movement.

I think we are still in a very

precarious situation.

We have many, many Trumps in Europe and they are, you know, Russia has been supporting them for many years financially, politically, diplomatically.

And now we have a U.S.