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and in some ways saw what he did at Ohio State.

Now, I do have a friend that you know well.

Joe Smelter used to have him in class.

He covers Penn State football now.

Great guy.

He will always push back against the Howard idea, and he'll bring up, well, you know, how many guys in college got to play quarterback, and their wide receiver room was like the Avengers.

Because that really is what Ohio State has.

They always have the cream of the crop at wide receiver.

And I think that's a fair argument.

I think a lot of times that is the pushback that Ohio State QBs get.

That's a little wild, though, that one of the best defensive players in football just comes out and says that.

I mean, part of me...

wonders how much do they really like will howard or is this a little bit of how a few years back if you recall what it was going into the combine i think and omar khan was speaking there at the combine and remember he was talking so highly of kenny pickett and then weeks later russell wilson is the new steelers quarterback and kenny pickett's on his way to yeah i can't believe anything anybody says really

Donnie.

Football in shorts.

You know who else impressed people?

In that stage, Caleb Johnson.

Yeah, he did.

So that's just something else to consider, and those are guys that got picked –

I do think if there was no Ben that a lot of those guys probably would get hyped up back in their time.