Doreen Quinn Giuliano
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It's fair to say what she does next, few mothers would ever consider.
Could she somehow get him to admit that he should never have been on that jury?
Er wollte nicht, dass ich das tue. Er sagte, nein, nein, nein.
Ja. Ich versuchte nur, einige Jahre zu verbringen.
I bought a whole new wardrobe, you know, low-cut blouses, push-up bra, high heels that I had to practice walking in because I wasn't good at it. This is not how you're dressed today. No, no, I'm pretty conservative. You were wearing lots of makeup? Lots of makeup. I had to try to... Ja, ja, ich warte auf ihn, um nach Hause zu kommen. An einem Punkt trägt sie sogar eine Burka.
Ein muslimischer Freund hat mich mit dieser wunderschönen Burka befasst und sagte, man könne sich nahe an jemanden, den man will, an die Eier drücken. Ich erinnere mich an eine Gespräche. Er sprach über Blondes. Er mag Blondes. Dann habe ich mich entschieden, wirklich blond zu werden.
I rode my bike past him several times, up and down the block, waiting for him to notice me. Then his friend whistled at me and my heart dropped. And I said hi. And I said I was from California and was new to the neighborhood. And he said I could give him a call.
Wie lange warst du hier? Ein Jahr, vielleicht ein Jahr und ein halbes.
I was like, am I gonna feel paranoid? Am I gonna, you know, blow my cover?
Guten Morgen! Hey! Wie geht's dir? Ich bin okay.
One time he called on and he said, you sound like you're from Brooklyn. And I said, I'm taking classes, so they must be working.
Und du hättest einen Entschuldigung gehabt. Es gibt keinen einzigen Entschuldigung.
Er glaubte, John sei Juden.
I was disgusted with him because he said it proudly. And he's bragging how he put this kid away.
I wanted to punch him in his face.
Das ist Verurteilung des Gerichts und Verbrechen.
Es ist unkontrolliert. Es ist ähm... sehr violent. Zwischen den Einwohnern und den Göttern. Du weißt nicht, wem zu vertrauen.
So instead of giving up, despite the resounding legal defeat, in 2012 Doreen decides to double down. So I decided to investigate each and every person who wrongfully testified against my son. And I started off with the jailhouse informant.
Aber John Juca ist nicht die Verletzung in diesem Fall.
Oh, God. You know why? Because she's a cheater.
Leute würden mir sagen, dass ich Lauren nicht hasse. Wie kann man eine 19-jährige Frau hassen, die in eine Lüge gedrückt wurde? Ich blame den Berichterstatter und den Detektiv.
Du hattest Hoffnung, aber es wurde von dir entfernt. Und der Unfall ist schlimmer. Es macht dich in den Bett geraten und nicht wieder raus.
Look, it's the facts that drive me. Not a feeling or a hunch, it's the facts. And I beg the judge, the public, just look at the facts.
Und ich dachte, etwas Schreckliches ist passiert. Ich dachte, wir haben verloren. Und er sagte, bist du da? Und ich sagte, ja. Er sagte, wir haben gewonnen. Wir haben gewonnen. Ich schrie. Ich trug den Telefon. Ich dachte, es war ein Wunder.
Er war auf dem Weg nach Hause, um den Baum zu dekorieren, und er hat es nie nach Hause gebracht. Und du hast es so gehalten? Ja. Wartest du? Wartest du.
Und das tun sie, natürlich. Und du hattest für sie Empathie? Natürlich. Natürlich, aber in demselben Respekt. Ich muss für mein Sohn's Leben kämpfen. Weißt du? Ich muss für meinen Sohn kämpfen.
Ja. Ich war in Florida. One of those stranded kids, Mark Fisher, who's now not only enamored, he's hammered.
Und er dachte, er bringe sie hier zu meinem Haus, bekomme ein paar Bier und werde ein junger Junge, ein junger Teenager. Trinken? Trinken. Ich bin mir sicher, sie trinken auch. Sie trinken Weide? Ja.
So tell me about Antonio Russo. He was a bit of a wild card. He was younger than all the other boys.
He was talking about blondes. He liked blondes. That's when I decided to go really blonde. I had to try to, you know, attract him. Catch his eye. Catch his eye.
John was a mess. He said Mark Fisher was a good guy and he was devastated.
Ich habe einen Anruf bekommen von John. Und was hat er gesagt? Er hat gesagt, Mama, du musst nach Hause kommen. Und ich habe gesagt, ist alles okay? Und er hat gesagt, du musst nach Hause kommen.
Die Presse war auf meinem Boden.
Yeah, and detectives were on my porch.
Yes. What do you make of that? You know... Sie sagt, das ist nicht fast genug, um ihren Sohn John zu implizieren, der in der Schule für, vor allem, Kriminalität ging.
This is Albert Cleary's house?
What made you decide to go undercover? When a mutual friend of John's, who was in the audience, recognized one of the jurors, the guy with the bald head.
He didn't want me to do it, obviously. He said, no, no, no.
Yes. I just was trying to knock off some years.
I bought a whole new wardrobe, you know, low-cut blouses, push-up bra, high heels that I had to practice walking in because I wasn't good at it. This is not how you're dressed today. No, no, I'm pretty conservative. You were wearing lots of makeup? Lots of makeup. I had to try to... You know, attract him.
I did. Sitting there for hours. You just can't take your eye off the price. And you called him the target. I did call him the target, yeah.
Uh, yeah. Yeah, waiting for him to come home from work.
A Muslim friend hooked me up with this beautiful burqa and said, and you could get up close to anyone you want and eavesdrop. I remember listening to a conversation. He was talking about blondes. He liked blondes. That's when I decided to go really blonde.
I rode my bike past him several times up and down the block waiting for him to notice me. Then his friend whistled at me and my heart dropped and I said hi and I said I was from California and was new to the neighborhood and he said I could give him a call.
How long were you here? A year, maybe a year and a half.
How you doing? I'm OK. Are you ready?
I was like, am I going to feel paranoid? Am I going to, you know, blow my cover?
One time he called on and he said, you sound like you're from Brooklyn. And I said, I'm taking classes, so they must be working.
He believed that John was Jewish.
I was disgusted with him because he said it proudly. And he's bragging how he put this kid away. What did you want to do? I wanted to punch him in his face.
It's out of control. It's very violent. Between the inmates and the guards, you don't know who to trust.
Here's somebody admitting to you that he lied, which is contempt of court and perjury.
John doesn't belong here. Where does he belong? Home.
Oh, disgust, you know? He denied a lot of the stuff that you got him on tape saying. Right. I have the proof. So now all's we gotta do is write a motion and submit it to the judge.
Maybe it was misguided, but definitely not too far, because any mother would do it.
As long as I follow the law, I don't see anything wrong with it.
So I decided to investigate each and every person who wrongfully testified against my son. And I started off with the jailhouse informant.
Seeing him there, it was heart-wrenching. I hate it. I hate it. And the worst part is leaving. And I try not to cry because, you know, you don't want your son seeing you crying.
Oh, God. You know why? Because she's a cheater.
People would say to me, don't you hate Lauren? How can you hate a 19-year-old girl who was pressured into lying? I blame the prosecutor and the detective.
You have hope. It's taken away from you and the crash is worse. Makes you want to crawl into bed and not get back out.
Look, it's the facts that drive me. Not a feeling or a hunch. It's the facts. And I beg the judge, the public, just look at the facts.
And I thought something terrible happened. I thought we lost. And he said, are you sitting down? And I said, yes. He said, we won. We won. I screamed. I threw the phone. I thought it was a miracle.
No. He was on his way home to decorate the tree, and he never made it home. And so you've kept this up?
Of course. Of course. But in the same respect, I got to fight for my son's life. You know? I have to fight for my son.
on a weekend vacation with my husband. And John decided to throw up an impromptu party. I mean, there was a few kids that got stranded in Manhattan and had no place to go.
He was talking about blondes. He liked blondes. That's when I decided to go really blonde. I had to try to, you know, attract him. Catch his eye. Catch his eye.
and he figured he'll bring them here to my house, get some beers, and be young adults, you know, teenagers. Drinking. Drinking. I'm sure they were smoking also. Smoking weed. Yes.
So tell me about Antonio Russo. He was a bit of a wild card. He was younger than all the other boys.
John was a mess. He said Mark Fisher was a good guy, and he was devastated.
I got a call from John. And what did he say? He said, Ma, you need to come home. And I said, is everything OK? And he said, you need to come home. And so you get home, frantic. What's the scene here? The press was on my lawn. Already? Yeah. And detectives were on my porch.
Yes. What do you make of that? You know... Mark Fisher fell asleep on the sofa. And then in the morning, he took the blanket with him.
What did he want to do? Well, initially, he wanted to be a detective.