Doug Burgum

We had belly chains around our waist and we had handcuffs with bars in the middle.

As someone who majored in African-American studies, I can tell you that that is the closest I ever felt to slavery in my life.

Being shackled as if I was a slave.

It is unacceptable and unconscionable, but it's on brand.

Well, first of all, you're absolutely right, Vince.

Probably the most misnamed department ever in the history of America because the interior throws people off.

14 time zones going from American Samoa to the U.S.

Virgin Islands.

All of the Bureau of Land Management, all of the

Bureau of Reclamation, Open Service Mining, Offshore Bureau of Energy Management, which is all the offshore, all the national parks, all the relationships and trust management with Bureau of Indian Affairs.

You add all of this stuff up, we're talking 500 million acres of surface, 700 million acres of subsurface,

3.2 billion of offshore acres.

If interior was a balance sheet, it would be the largest balance sheet in the world in terms of asset management.

And of course, buried in all that is the rich in minerals, rich for grazing, rich for timber, rich for oil and gas, critical minerals.

And when we do a lease

The money goes to the American citizens.

People talk about all the debt that America has with all this debt.

Our balance sheet on the asset side could be 10 times bigger than what our debt is and we never talk about it.

Think of this as the balance sheet of America.

Well, I would say, oh yeah, I have had a chance to get into that.