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Doug Burgum

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
641 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then a week after that, they were celebrating the fact that they had their first day of 100% renewables on their system. And then the next week, they were a global news story because people were trapped in subways. All airline flights canceled. Hospitals were panicking with a lack of power because they had a rolling blackout and grid failure because it justifies physics.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then a week after that, they were celebrating the fact that they had their first day of 100% renewables on their system. And then the next week, they were a global news story because people were trapped in subways. All airline flights canceled. Hospitals were panicking with a lack of power because they had a rolling blackout and grid failure because it justifies physics.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

You can't run an electrical grid with just intermittent power. You cannot run with something that is based in intermittent is the definition of solar or wind because the sun doesn't shine at night and the wind doesn't blow every day and you can have it. And so in America, we became dangerously close to that right now. We've got parts of our country that are at risk for those same kind of

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

You can't run an electrical grid with just intermittent power. You cannot run with something that is based in intermittent is the definition of solar or wind because the sun doesn't shine at night and the wind doesn't blow every day and you can have it. And so in America, we became dangerously close to that right now. We've got parts of our country that are at risk for those same kind of

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

of what I'll call the Biden brownouts and blackouts to happen because we oversubsidized the intermittent and we overregulated all of the baseload in an idea to, quote, save the planet. And all we're doing is potentially putting our own country at risk.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

of what I'll call the Biden brownouts and blackouts to happen because we oversubsidized the intermittent and we overregulated all of the baseload in an idea to, quote, save the planet. And all we're doing is potentially putting our own country at risk.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, the regulatory attack was a whole of government. So it did attack the formation of capital. I mean, you came up with regulatory rules that made it impossible for baseload power from fossil fuels even get a permit. Well, if you can't get a permit, then you can't get access to capital. You can't get access to insurance.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, the regulatory attack was a whole of government. So it did attack the formation of capital. I mean, you came up with regulatory rules that made it impossible for baseload power from fossil fuels even get a permit. Well, if you can't get a permit, then you can't get access to capital. You can't get access to insurance.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then you had protests and social media and everybody going online saying, oh, we've got to exit from all this. And this same phenomena happened in Germany. I think it's very clear right now that a lot of that A lot of what I call the social media driven concerns were part of, you know, psyops operations from places like Russia.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then you had protests and social media and everybody going online saying, oh, we've got to exit from all this. And this same phenomena happened in Germany. I think it's very clear right now that a lot of that A lot of what I call the social media driven concerns were part of, you know, psyops operations from places like Russia.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, it was Russia's great advantage to get Germany to shut down nuclear, to shut down all their coal production. And hey, we have a solution, just buy all your natural gas from us. So Germany spent a half a trillion dollars, $500 billion on the quote, air quotes, transition to green energy. They were transitioning to wind and solar. half a trillion, $500 billion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, it was Russia's great advantage to get Germany to shut down nuclear, to shut down all their coal production. And hey, we have a solution, just buy all your natural gas from us. So Germany spent a half a trillion dollars, $500 billion on the quote, air quotes, transition to green energy. They were transitioning to wind and solar. half a trillion, $500 billion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

They today produce 20% less electricity and that electricity costs three times as much as it did before they began the transition. And now we have the war with Russia and Ukraine. What are they doing? They were scrambling to try to reopened coal plants. They were scrambling to try to get back in the nuclear game. They were saying, wow, we overshot the mark. We went too far.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

They today produce 20% less electricity and that electricity costs three times as much as it did before they began the transition. And now we have the war with Russia and Ukraine. What are they doing? They were scrambling to try to reopened coal plants. They were scrambling to try to get back in the nuclear game. They were saying, wow, we overshot the mark. We went too far.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Again, highly subsidizing intermittent sources. And so it's like, I think part of the awakening that is occurring right now is that if the greatest existential threat to the planet and to America is not one degree of climate change in the year 2100, because guess what? Innovation

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Again, highly subsidizing intermittent sources. And so it's like, I think part of the awakening that is occurring right now is that if the greatest existential threat to the planet and to America is not one degree of climate change in the year 2100, because guess what? Innovation

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

We'll solve any challenges that we have with climate change, with innovation, and we won't have innovation without electricity. And actually losing the AI arms race to China is the real threat.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

We'll solve any challenges that we have with climate change, with innovation, and we won't have innovation without electricity. And actually losing the AI arms race to China is the real threat.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Yeah, and some of that could be coming in the next decade. It doesn't help us today because today we've got to shore it up. And I think one thing that, you know, having spent 30 years in tech, we never used more than 1% of the nation's electrical production. And it was because computers were getting more... You mean tech? Yeah, tech.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Yeah, and some of that could be coming in the next decade. It doesn't help us today because today we've got to shore it up. And I think one thing that, you know, having spent 30 years in tech, we never used more than 1% of the nation's electrical production. And it was because computers were getting more... You mean tech? Yeah, tech.