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Doug Burgum

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So you might have seen, I can't remember whether it was yesterday or the day before, AstraZeneca said that they were going to build a 50 billion plant here.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So we're seeing this big on-shoring move that I think

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

can accelerate all that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So I think there's a very good chance that we see, just like with AI, we're seeing now we're in the construction boom phase, then we're going to be in the use case.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I think we could have this massive construction boom, and then the factories get populated.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And part of President Trump's one big beautiful bill, the most powerful part of that is the 100% immediate expensing of equipment.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And we also did it for factories.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So not only are we trying to make the U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

the best destination regulatory-wise, we're also making it tax-wise.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So you can immediately write off all the equipment.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

For the next five years, you're going to be able to write off the factory structure.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And I saw Secretary Bergman-Wright

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

and we're going to have cheap energy, which seems like a pretty good combination.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Sorry?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Well, I think if you look, the Fed publishes something called the Summary of Economic Projections, and it's pretty politically biased.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But we're seeing that we can see one, two rate cuts this year.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And I think that once we see over the next one, two months that the tariffs haven't been inflationary.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And I have breakfast with Chair Powell almost every week.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And I just keep saying that a one-time price level increase is very different than the notion of a persistent inflationary spiral.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I think that we used to say TDS was Trump derangement syndrome.