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Doug Burgum

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
641 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So if we think about China, China has a high tariff rate.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

It's 30%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

The Chinese business model is like the brooms and the water buckets from Fantasia.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They just keep going.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And it's an employment agency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And it's an employment agency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So they will just keep cutting costs to maintain market share.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So we haven't seen that thus far.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And a lot of the other foreign producers have cut costs

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

cut price to maintain market share.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

A lot of the U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

companies have eaten into their margins to maintain market share.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But the other thing we're seeing is the tariffs are creating the on-shoring.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So you might have seen, I can't remember whether it was yesterday or the day before, AstraZeneca said that they were going to build a 50 billion plant here.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So we're seeing this big on-shoring move that I think

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

can accelerate all that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So I think there's a very good chance that we see, just like with AI, we're seeing now we're in the construction boom phase, then we're going to be in the use case.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I think we could have this massive construction boom, and then the factories get populated.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And part of President Trump's one big beautiful bill, the most powerful part of that is the 100% immediate expensing of equipment.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And we also did it for factories.