Doug Hart

Unquestionably, yes. It is absolutely a two-way street. Lori used sex to manipulate Chad, and Chad used his visionary status to manipulate Lori.

He was one who was willing to do anything for his sister and ultimately anything for Chad.

Yes, but clearly also an absolutely cold-blooded killer.

It's a small town. And Chad's, you know, the chances of him being spotted while on a real date with Lori are pretty significant.

Chad sends a message to Lori, big news about Tammy. Tammy's been possessed by this entity, Viola. I don't know the timing for, quote, removal, but once it's been affirmed, I don't want to wait.

No, close by. It's my belief that Chad went and picked him up and brought him back to the house and that the two of them did that together and then Chad took him back to where his car was parked.

I don't see how you could do it otherwise.

We certainly don't see any communications between Lori and Zulema, which we would have seen, saying, hey, I'm shopping for a dress for you, or I found this wonderful wedding ring for you. So that is conspicuously absent.

It had to be done manually.

You can't do a keyword search. And if we did a keyword search, raccoon certainly wouldn't have been a keyword that we were looking for.

Just to give you an idea, one of the phones had 54,000 text messages in it. So it's days and weeks and months of just hard, detailed, investigative work.

What that text message did for us is that it represented a communication from Chad Daybell to his wife Tammy to explain why he was burning and digging on the property on that date.

And ultimately, we're able to piece all of these critical things together into an affidavit and seek a search warrant for the property.

That was a very emotional moment.

Yeah, those aren't, those are memories that, you know, don't go away.