Doug Lesmerises

And then there's how you pair things together, the feel you have for the game.

And Andy, I just think like it's impossible for Brian Hartline to be as good at the art

as a first-year play caller, as Ryan Day was, as Chip Kelly was, as someone like Arthur Smith is.

And I think I would expect you'll just maybe feel that in the offense a little bit, just that vibe and how you set things up.

And it's not just about what the play calls are, but the sequencing and how you go about it.

So man, you guys are saying some great stuff about this hire.

I'll tell you what, you guys love this hire and you're giving it bees.

You're like, I love it.

It's changing the face of Ohio state football.

It's in the eighties.

I'm giving it a 94.

What do you want?

Kyle Shanahan.

We're getting Tiger Ellison?

Like, what more do you want here?

What would be in the 90s?

This guy was calling plays for the Steelers two weeks ago.

And you're like, I got to tell you what, 83.

It's like, no, it's in the 90s, Colton.

Like, I really, I wonder, I don't, like, realistically, if you're going to go this way and you're not going to try to find, like, the next Lincoln Riley and dig a guy out of East Carolina, which just doesn't seem like what Ryan Day was interested in, I don't know if they realistically could have done better.