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Doug Passon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
225 total appearances

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

Hyper-focus, areas of high interest. People on the spectrum, I think it's a way they manage anxiety, just become so interested in one thing and always into that thing. Great. Online, you can go as deep and as wide as you want to go on any topic.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And you may hope that it's World War II airplanes, but a lot of times it may be QAnon or some crazy shit that they just keep going and going and going and going. The last pillar is the executive functioning component. So now you've got all this information and ideas in your head and you don't know what to do with it.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And you may hope that it's World War II airplanes, but a lot of times it may be QAnon or some crazy shit that they just keep going and going and going and going. The last pillar is the executive functioning component. So now you've got all this information and ideas in your head and you don't know what to do with it.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And you may hope that it's World War II airplanes, but a lot of times it may be QAnon or some crazy shit that they just keep going and going and going and going. The last pillar is the executive functioning component. So now you've got all this information and ideas in your head and you don't know what to do with it.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And you come up with a dumb idea like shooting up an energy facility or going to meet this girl or whatever it is. And you have this rigid thinking, which is once you get this idea, it's very hard to get out of it. You have executive functioning, which means you can't plan and predict consequences.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And you come up with a dumb idea like shooting up an energy facility or going to meet this girl or whatever it is. And you have this rigid thinking, which is once you get this idea, it's very hard to get out of it. You have executive functioning, which means you can't plan and predict consequences.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And you come up with a dumb idea like shooting up an energy facility or going to meet this girl or whatever it is. And you have this rigid thinking, which is once you get this idea, it's very hard to get out of it. You have executive functioning, which means you can't plan and predict consequences.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

What happens three steps down the road if I do this thing and I end up in jail for this thing or my family ends up devastated and bankrupt from this thing or some child, God forbid, ends up getting traumatized from this thing? That's not the way the autistic brain works. And that's how they find themselves in this terrible trouble. And guess what?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

What happens three steps down the road if I do this thing and I end up in jail for this thing or my family ends up devastated and bankrupt from this thing or some child, God forbid, ends up getting traumatized from this thing? That's not the way the autistic brain works. And that's how they find themselves in this terrible trouble. And guess what?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

What happens three steps down the road if I do this thing and I end up in jail for this thing or my family ends up devastated and bankrupt from this thing or some child, God forbid, ends up getting traumatized from this thing? That's not the way the autistic brain works. And that's how they find themselves in this terrible trouble. And guess what?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

That's why the suicide rate for autistic people is off the charts. Loneliness, rigid thinking, this is a solution to a problem, I can't think of a better one. And then total lack of how is this going to affect the rest of my life, my family's life, everybody. And it's those three pillars I think explains that, really.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

That's why the suicide rate for autistic people is off the charts. Loneliness, rigid thinking, this is a solution to a problem, I can't think of a better one. And then total lack of how is this going to affect the rest of my life, my family's life, everybody. And it's those three pillars I think explains that, really.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

That's why the suicide rate for autistic people is off the charts. Loneliness, rigid thinking, this is a solution to a problem, I can't think of a better one. And then total lack of how is this going to affect the rest of my life, my family's life, everybody. And it's those three pillars I think explains that, really.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

Yeah, yeah. And that is what I think we would call The idea of mind blindness. It's this idea of perspective taking. It's so central to what we do because, again, the default is, of course you knew how this person would feel about what you did. Let's take the child sexual abuse material, right? It's a picture. And it's a picture of a child being abused in unimaginable ways.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

Yeah, yeah. And that is what I think we would call The idea of mind blindness. It's this idea of perspective taking. It's so central to what we do because, again, the default is, of course you knew how this person would feel about what you did. Let's take the child sexual abuse material, right? It's a picture. And it's a picture of a child being abused in unimaginable ways.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

Yeah, yeah. And that is what I think we would call The idea of mind blindness. It's this idea of perspective taking. It's so central to what we do because, again, the default is, of course you knew how this person would feel about what you did. Let's take the child sexual abuse material, right? It's a picture. And it's a picture of a child being abused in unimaginable ways.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And the neurotypical goes, who looks at that picture and is instantaneously repulsed because we have perspective taking. We can basically go into the mind of that child or even that abuser and understand how terrible that situation is. Autistic brain can't do that. Much of what we do is education and there's really two ways you can educate somebody.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And the neurotypical goes, who looks at that picture and is instantaneously repulsed because we have perspective taking. We can basically go into the mind of that child or even that abuser and understand how terrible that situation is. Autistic brain can't do that. Much of what we do is education and there's really two ways you can educate somebody.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

And the neurotypical goes, who looks at that picture and is instantaneously repulsed because we have perspective taking. We can basically go into the mind of that child or even that abuser and understand how terrible that situation is. Autistic brain can't do that. Much of what we do is education and there's really two ways you can educate somebody.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Doug Passon: Breaking Down Barriers, How Understanding Autism Changes Legal Outcomes

You can educate them with the science and the facts, the scholarly articles, the erudite speeches and everything else. But me, I'm a storyteller. And I think the more you could just tell stories that bring this home better. Here's a simple one. I mentioned I have a son on the spectrum. He has a little brother who's not on the spectrum. And you know how a little brother looks up to big brother.