Dov Lieber
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It's a window inside the campaign you don't really hear about.
The campaign to really threaten people.
I mean, this was a key objective Israel wanted to reach.
They wanted to see members of Iranian security forces putting down their weapons or standing aside or saying they weren't going to take part in the war anymore.
When we were speaking to Iranians, myself and mostly my colleagues, really, were speaking to them, they said, you know, many of them said, well, we would like the regime to be gone, but protesting now would be suicide.
Throughout the entire war, Iran itself was threatening people, do not protest.
If you protest, we will consider you as abetting the enemy, which is a threat to kill them.
And they were very, very blunt about that.
So despite the shakiness of the security forces, they were always still there, and the civilians in Iran always knew that.
Well, throughout the war, they've been hitting nuclear sites, sites that they hit again last year.
They hit them again and they hit some new sites.
And if the Iranians want to restart their nuclear program, it may be very difficult for them.
But they still have highly enriched uranium buried deep underground.
And if they manage to procure that enriched uranium, they could potentially, according to experts, find a way to enrich it to Robert's grade level.
The regime is still there.
It's digging in and it's projecting power.
It has, by taking control over who can pass through the Straits of Hormuz, the Iranian regime looks emboldened.
It doesn't look like it's wobbling.
It looks emboldened.