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Downtown Josh Brown

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

Debt was almost non-existent amongst the tech giants.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

This is the thing that we originally loved about these companies.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

They were not capital intensive with the exception of Amazon.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

And there was no need for debt because they were producing enormous cash flows.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

And to your point earlier in the show, that has completely gone into reverse.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

770 billion in CapEx in 2026, 100% of cash flow from operations for those companies.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

And not only are they selling more stock in some cases, now they're selling a lot of bonds.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

And that is not a problem yet because they all have very high credit ratings.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

The last thing on this, Tony Pasquarello from Goldman Sachs.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

Quote, for several years, U.S.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

mega cap tech companies have generated, returned and reinvested capital to an extent that no other cohort could touch.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

I believe that will be the case for a while longer.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

But what has clearly changed is the capital requirement of AI so immense that free cash flow alone can't do all the heavy lifting.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

He says, put this chart up.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

In the aggregate, it's not yet time to worry about the inability of these companies to access capital.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

Our work suggests the core hyperscalers can add around 700 billion of more financing before their net debt load is greater than one times 2026 EBITDA.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

So of course, that's a very Goldman-friendly message from Tony at Goldman.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

They do want to be involved in selling more debt for these companies.

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

Would you agree?

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The Compound and Friends
Betting on OpenAI, SpaceX Dust Settles, Josh’s New Trade

Yeah.

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