Dr. Abdul El-Sayed

taking corporate PAC money, and your whole claim to fame is that you've won elections, then you've won elections on the rules that have broken our politics in the first place.

So I think at the end of the day, maybe start to give some of that money back, right?

Try and figure out how you can get right on this.

But if you didn't realize from the day you started running that corporate PACs

are the essential corrupting feature in our politics, then at some point, I think you owe an explanation as to why.

At the end of the day though, it's not really about them.

To me, I want folks to understand that from the day I stepped into politics eight years ago and I ran for governor, I understood that if we are going to continue to play the game the same way it's always been played, we're going to continue to get outcomes that are consistent with what we've always gotten.

And we've just watched if things have gotten worse.

They're afraid.

I think...

The experience of living in America over the past decade is that things are bad and they get worse.

And anytime somebody tells you they're going to make it better, they just make it worse.

I wrote a book called Healing Politics where I tried to diagnose this epidemic of insecurity.

And insecurity, I'm not talking about like the psychological insecurity that's like insecure about how you look.

No, I'm talking about the insecurity of believing that things cannot get better.

And it doesn't really matter who you are.

You are constantly faced with a system and a situation that feels like it's trying to pick your pocket.

And it shows up in a lot of different ways.

It shows up in the, I can't afford a second bag of groceries.

It shows up in the, I am literally avoiding medical care for a problem I know I have because I am worried that I'm going to fall into debt and I can't take that debt right now.