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Dr. Abdul El-Sayed

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
266 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

It's not like AI just happens out of thin air.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

You need huge amounts of compute sucking up huge amounts of electricity, potentially using huge amounts of water to cool it.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

And that has physical consequences in communities like ours.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

So when it comes to the regulation of

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

I think we need it.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

And the problem right now is a lot of the folks who understand it best are taking money from the very same corporations who want zero regulation at all.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

And a lot of the folks who want to regulate are not as close to the technology.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

I aim to try and solve that as somebody who understands the development of this technology and also has not taken money from the corporations that are trying to tell us that somehow they know better for our whole entire future.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

And when it comes to data centers, I've been very clear.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

We put out a terms of engagement.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

This has been a live issue.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

There were 15 data center projects proposed in Michigan in the last year alone, and there are many, many more slated for 2026.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

And our terms of engagement are thus.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

If you want to open a data center in Michigan, you better meet the following terms.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

Number one, if you're promising jobs, you need to create all the jobs you said you were going to create, and they need to be good union local jobs.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

Number two, there cannot be any increase in our electricity costs.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

In fact,

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

You should be invested in reducing costs and some of the revenue that is passed on to utilities needs to be spent to improve our reliability.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

Three, there should be closed loop systems, meaning you cannot connect to the water infrastructure and to our water resources and think that you could just pollute our water to cool your computing in your data centers.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
3/27/26: Trump Panic Delays Iran Attack, IDF Chief Says Military Collapsing, Abdul El-Sayed Interview, Jasper Nathaniel on West Bank

Four, that there has to be a community benefits agreement that is negotiated and prepaid for