Dr. Abraham Morgentaler

Oh, it's great to be here with you. Thank you.

Oh, it's great to be here with you. Thank you.

Thank you. You know, it's hard for me to accept something like that, but practically speaking, I think that that's right. And, you know, I started doing this at a time when everybody thought testosterone was going to absolutely give people prostate cancer, like pow, right away. Just a little whiff for a week or two, prostate cancer. That's the fear that we had. And I got interested in it.

Thank you. You know, it's hard for me to accept something like that, but practically speaking, I think that that's right. And, you know, I started doing this at a time when everybody thought testosterone was going to absolutely give people prostate cancer, like pow, right away. Just a little whiff for a week or two, prostate cancer. That's the fear that we had. And I got interested in it.

And I'd love to tell you how I got started. But my work has really been about using testosterone and showing that it didn't really cause prostate cancer. I didn't know that before I started, but that's what happened. And as the barrier to testosterone dropped because people weren't so worried about prostate cancer, then all sorts of things opened up. And here we are 35 years later.

And I'd love to tell you how I got started. But my work has really been about using testosterone and showing that it didn't really cause prostate cancer. I didn't know that before I started, but that's what happened. And as the barrier to testosterone dropped because people weren't so worried about prostate cancer, then all sorts of things opened up. And here we are 35 years later.

Oh, my God. So, listen, thank you for that. And it's kind of amazing sometimes I sit here and think back like on all the changes that have happened and. And we went through things. And truthfully, it did require a certain amount of courage because I was doing something that was considered dangerous.

Oh, my God. So, listen, thank you for that. And it's kind of amazing sometimes I sit here and think back like on all the changes that have happened and. And we went through things. And truthfully, it did require a certain amount of courage because I was doing something that was considered dangerous.

But I always felt like what I was doing was in my patient's best interest and with open communication and discussion of what the potential risks were. So the story originally begins, if I may, when I was 19 years old and I was an undergraduate at Harvard. And I was supposed to be a hockey player. Like in my head, I was going to be like a professional hockey player.

But I always felt like what I was doing was in my patient's best interest and with open communication and discussion of what the potential risks were. So the story originally begins, if I may, when I was 19 years old and I was an undergraduate at Harvard. And I was supposed to be a hockey player. Like in my head, I was going to be like a professional hockey player.

And it turned out I could play at a decent level. I played freshman at Harvard, which is a good school to play freshman level. There's no way I was going to play varsity. And in my second year, I didn't know what I was doing. And I ran into a biology professor from whom I'd taken a class in Harvard Square. And I was completely lost. I was just a lost sophomore, not sure what I was doing.

And it turned out I could play at a decent level. I played freshman at Harvard, which is a good school to play freshman level. There's no way I was going to play varsity. And in my second year, I didn't know what I was doing. And I ran into a biology professor from whom I'd taken a class in Harvard Square. And I was completely lost. I was just a lost sophomore, not sure what I was doing.

And he said, how are you doing? And I told him, actually, I'm not doing that well. I don't know if I should just stop college, just drop out. And he said, why don't you come work in my lab? You might like it. His name was David Cruz. And he changed my life and put me on a track from age 19 to here I am 50 years later. It's unbelievable.

And he said, how are you doing? And I told him, actually, I'm not doing that well. I don't know if I should just stop college, just drop out. And he said, why don't you come work in my lab? You might like it. His name was David Cruz. And he changed my life and put me on a track from age 19 to here I am 50 years later. It's unbelievable.

And so he had a reptile lab and he was interested in sex, hormones, and the brain. And so the first project, I worked on these little American chameleons. They're all over Florida. If you've been there, you see them everywhere on the walls, on the sidewalks, inside your hotel room sometimes. Terrifying.

And so he had a reptile lab and he was interested in sex, hormones, and the brain. And so the first project, I worked on these little American chameleons. They're all over Florida. If you've been there, you see them everywhere on the walls, on the sidewalks, inside your hotel room sometimes. Terrifying.

And you put a male in the cage with the female, and they have this bright colored flap of skin that comes out. It's called a dewlap. And the male sees the female, the dewlap comes up and their head bobs really quickly. It's almost like the male is going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he's interested. The female does a little stately pushup that says, okay, buddy, what you got?

And you put a male in the cage with the female, and they have this bright colored flap of skin that comes out. It's called a dewlap. And the male sees the female, the dewlap comes up and their head bobs really quickly. It's almost like the male is going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he's interested. The female does a little stately pushup that says, okay, buddy, what you got?

And then the male comes closer and repeats the behavior and then they meet. So if you castrate the male, which means removing the testicles, which was the first procedure I ever did in anything, not knowing I was going to go to medical school, let alone become a urologist. But if you castrate the male, you put him in a cage for the female, they don't do anything. They have no interest.

And then the male comes closer and repeats the behavior and then they meet. So if you castrate the male, which means removing the testicles, which was the first procedure I ever did in anything, not knowing I was going to go to medical school, let alone become a urologist. But if you castrate the male, you put him in a cage for the female, they don't do anything. They have no interest.