Dr. Abud Bakri

Yeah, $1,500 without insurance.

Some insurance will cover it.

Some wouldn't.

You'd have to get a, you know, savvy clinician that will advocate on your behalf to get these covered.

But cash pay between, you know, even some of the pills, I think you can pay $150 a month for the Orforograplan, which is not a peptide, but still GLP-1 agonist.

We're trying to get to the point, like, it doesn't matter if it's a peptide or not.

What matters is where it touches, what receptor it touches.

Because orforgropon is more similar to semaglutide.

Both of them are GLP-1 drugs.

One's a peptide, one's not.

Then BPC is the semaglutide.

So, like, everyone online talks about peptides are good or peptides are bad.

There's no actual scientific category of peptides that gives you a functional definition that's discussable between two people.

Because what do you mean by peptide?

Do you mean carnosine?

Do you mean...

Very true to that.

No literature exists on either animal or human data that relates to those peptides.

I'd say those are more hormonal slash metabolic issues that a good OB-GYN should take care of.

They're very difficult to treat conditions and very miserable to have for people and have fertility implications.