Dr. Adriane Johnson-Williams

And the person who didn't have enough ego, enough emotional self-awareness to say, I don't know.

What do you think?

I'm also going to say just a little secret here.

Tell everyone who's watching.

If you only talk about the things, you know, people think you're really smart.

Because when they fact check you, everything you say is true.

So if you don't talk about stuff you don't know anything about, people are like, you know, she's real smart.

Like she really knows what she's talking about.

Yes, because she only talks about what she knows.

Yeah.

Can I go back a little bit to where this was?

So I used to be a professor of education and I taught teachers and superintendents and principals.

And I taught what was called the social foundations courses.

So history, sociology, philosophy of education, that kind of thing.

And when I taught the social issues classes where we talked about race, my students were white.

Almost all my students were white.

I taught in West Virginia.

And I would always start topics about race and education in talking about white identity.

I started with them.

And I feel like that is the thing that has really carried all the way through in all of my work, particularly when I work with white leaders.