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Dr. Alan O'Sullivan

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The MOST Important Thing
Putin's Gamble and the geopolitical chess game

There's loads more to come on The Most Important Thing, and we can't wait to see you next time.

The MOST Important Thing
Putin's Gamble and the geopolitical chess game

Thank you.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Investors should really understand that that strong realized return has come at the expense of lower future return.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Sometimes we say we have been borrowing returns from the future or we have brought future returns forward by having these very high valuations today.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

We are again in a situation which is sort of a little brother of what I consider the classic example of 2000, the dot-com bubble peak.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Market valuations were very high, like the Shiller-Cape ratio was, I think, 45-47, all-time high, and we are sort of getting close to that now.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

So high valuations...

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

to academics would mean low expected returns.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Even if you don't assume that valuations normalize, just the fact that you have got high valuations means that the starting yield is low because you are paying a high price for certain cash flows.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Yeah, it's true.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

I had some doubts about that.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

And by the way, I chose after 600 pages and 300 pages, I chose to do 10 pages.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

So I'm sort of learning about the shorter attention spans and adjusting if not fast enough.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

But yeah, I think the extra aspect that I wanted to bring with this series was the idea of looking at what I call subjective expected returns or return expectations with the logic that most of the things I had written and academics write about expected returns are really something what's objectively expected.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

useful predictor, which could be market years or so on, things that have really had some forecasting ability.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

But that can be very different from what people are actually expecting when they are asked about their expectations in surveys.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

And they reveal, sometimes they coincide, but I will highlight some cases where subjective and objective expectations can be quite opposites.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

So we are again in a situation which is sort of a little brother of what I consider the classic example of 2000, the dot-com bubble peak, where market valuations were very high, like the Shiller-Cape ratio that hopefully some readers know was, I think, 45, 47, all-time high, and we are sort of getting close to that.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Now, so high valuations to academics would mean low expected returns.

The MOST Important Thing
Ep 11 - Unlocking Investment Wisdom: AQR’s Dr. Antti Ilmanen's 10 Groundbreaking Papers. A lifetime of insight!

Even if you don't assume that valuations normalize, just the fact that you have got high valuations means that the starting yield is low because you are paying a high price for certain cash flows.