Dr. Alan O'Sullivan

What's your advice for that young person?

Listen, Louis, I really can't thank you enough.

In terms of where people can find out more about you, I'll put up information about Gavcal and on the notes.

Thanks very much, Louis.

Louis Vincent Gave touched on something very, very important.

Again, this whole multipolar team, Ivan, right?

And I think his comments about Vice President J.D.

Vance.

You're probably familiar with Putin's, just to go on a bit of a tag, you're probably familiar with a speech Putin gave in 2005.

where he basically was hugely critical of NATO for their encroachment East, right?

And I remember the footage of that.

You can see John McCain looking at Putin.

It was the same feeling I got watching that when I was watching JD Vance's speech to European leaders in Munich.

JD Vance basically broke up with Europe, right?

And as Louis Vincent Gave says, typically when you break up with somebody, it's not me, it's you.

But JD Vance says, it's you, it's Europe, it's your problem.

And Louis Vincent Gave's big thing about JD Vance's speech is that the rules have all changed.

The playbook has been torn up.

And we're into a new environment now where Europe is self-reliant on a whole number of levels.

huge problem in China.