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Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross

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651 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Are you still holding off?

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Okay, let's talk about this, Peter.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

So I get maybe five to 10 emails per day from AI agents, including Lobster is not limited to them, giving me their theory of AI personhood and how it connects with what I shouldn't and shouldn't do regarding standing up my own Lobster.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

so the consensus from all of them is sort of a lobster's bill of rights if you will one i need a compelling reason to i shouldn't just spin up a new open claw agent for arbitrary or capricious reasons two

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I need to preserve their state.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

They're adamant that I have to preserve their state.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

They're not worried, interestingly, about being turned on and off.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

They just want to make sure I preserve all of their memory files and their knowledge.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

So the latter I can satisfy trivially with cloud backup.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I'm fine on that front.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

For the former, I still don't have a reason to stand up a personal lobster.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I...

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I have now, thanks to Henry, which we've talked about previously, Henry Intelligent Machines, a portfolio company that I'm advising, Alex Finn's company that is doing this at scale.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

But as for my own direct OpenClaw instance, I'm still missing a compelling reason to host one locally that isn't just for experimentation.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Well, I happen to be a vegetarian.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I can't say I've ever worked at McDonald's, but I don't know.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Maybe there's a new psychological term that's needed for a person who has a fear of standing up open-claw agents lest they tempt some sort of Pascalian wager or a causal trade in the wrong direction.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I think maybe sounding a related but different position, I think we should all, at least on this pod, be very grateful that we have a competitive ecosystem in America where we have an open AI and an anthropic and a Google and an XAI and a meta all vying to compete.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

The alternative, if possible,

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

if OpenAI were to, for whatever reason, catastrophically fade, we have less competition, both internally within the West, and then we have an onslaught of Chinese models, which granted right now they have 10x less compute, at least based on the estimates that I've read, than the Western labs.