Dr. Alia Crum

It's crazy, and it's so... It was beautiful because it was sophisticated and skillful, you know, how they separated these things.

But those conditions kind of... What they suggest is that the pain-relieving effect of the pill...

was about the same as the pain relieving effect of the belief.

Now, another fun and interesting thing they found in the study was the placebo labeled the placebo was also better than doing nothing.

So that's a whole other conversation on understanding that.

I think it's because people still believe that something might work for them here.

Ted Kapchuk, who's an incredible person and scientist, has been doing a lot of research on what he calls open-label placebos.

And they tend to work, but I think we still don't really know why.

Okay.

I personally think it's the belief in placebos.

Yeah.

But we need more research.

So this question about cancer is really important, right?

It shouldn't be mind over matter, right?

It should be mind and matter.

So if you're diagnosed with cancer, you should get the best treatment for you.

We have great

drugs and therapies for cancer.

Many of the cancers that were incurable 10, 20 years ago are curable now.

And that is a beautiful thing, thanks to hardworking biologists and scientists.