Dr. Alok (Dr. K)

And then if we look at the other bucket, even if we talk about something like social anxiety, right, it's like when I am out with people, my mind has a compulsive way of thinking.

I'm thinking, oh, my God, what do people think?

Do people like me?

Do people not like me?

So I think that's that's spot on.

Then the other thing is the identification with the self.

So so I kind of think of that as a hunger, a hunger.

And I think he I would also agree with him that this gets translated as ego, which is not a very good translation.

One of the things that I've come to appreciate is that translating certain Eastern concepts to Western words

it attaches a certain Western implication to it, right?

So if we say like someone, when we think about ego in the West, we tend to think about it as sort of like negative.

And then Freud meant a different thing by ego and stuff like that.

So it gets kind of complicated.

But I think the other thing that we see with mental illness is a over attachment to our belief in who we are.

So someone who's suffering from depression will think in terms of like, you know, oh, like, I'm terrible.

I'm a bad person.

Right.

So that's actually like that's their that's their identity.

That's who they believe they are.

And if we look at things like narcissism and stuff like that, some of these personality disorders, which also have compulsive thought patterns.