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Dr. Andrea Apolo

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BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

I think we're learning. I think that's a great concern to have. In this study so far, they did not report any issues with surgical outcomes or even post-surgical outcomes.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

Yeah, and I think we need to understand that when the patients are getting combination therapy, the urologist and the medical oncologist need to stay really close in communications with labs because immune-related adverse events can occur at any time and often occur a little bit later. So could they occur postoperatively immediately? Of course they could.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

Yeah, and I think we need to understand that when the patients are getting combination therapy, the urologist and the medical oncologist need to stay really close in communications with labs because immune-related adverse events can occur at any time and often occur a little bit later. So could they occur postoperatively immediately? Of course they could.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

Yeah, and I think we need to understand that when the patients are getting combination therapy, the urologist and the medical oncologist need to stay really close in communications with labs because immune-related adverse events can occur at any time and often occur a little bit later. So could they occur postoperatively immediately? Of course they could.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

So we don't have yet the details and the granularity of those kind of adverse events that occurred in this study, but I think that they will occur and it's important for the urologist and the medical oncologist to stay closely connected in this perioperative setting.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

So we don't have yet the details and the granularity of those kind of adverse events that occurred in this study, but I think that they will occur and it's important for the urologist and the medical oncologist to stay closely connected in this perioperative setting.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

So we don't have yet the details and the granularity of those kind of adverse events that occurred in this study, but I think that they will occur and it's important for the urologist and the medical oncologist to stay closely connected in this perioperative setting.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

So patients with variant histology often are not included in trials. So I do love the fact that they did include patients with variant histology in this study. And I treat these patients as I would regular urothelial carcinoma, unless there's a small cell component in it or a neuroendocrine, a high-grade neuroendocrine component. Then I treat them as more like a lung component.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

So patients with variant histology often are not included in trials. So I do love the fact that they did include patients with variant histology in this study. And I treat these patients as I would regular urothelial carcinoma, unless there's a small cell component in it or a neuroendocrine, a high-grade neuroendocrine component. Then I treat them as more like a lung component.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

So patients with variant histology often are not included in trials. So I do love the fact that they did include patients with variant histology in this study. And I treat these patients as I would regular urothelial carcinoma, unless there's a small cell component in it or a neuroendocrine, a high-grade neuroendocrine component. Then I treat them as more like a lung component.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

small cell cancer with that kind of paradigm in terms of the systemic therapies that I use. But in general, patients with variant histologies, I treat them as urothelial carcinoma until we have prospective data showing that another regimen or something different would be better for these patients.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

small cell cancer with that kind of paradigm in terms of the systemic therapies that I use. But in general, patients with variant histologies, I treat them as urothelial carcinoma until we have prospective data showing that another regimen or something different would be better for these patients.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

small cell cancer with that kind of paradigm in terms of the systemic therapies that I use. But in general, patients with variant histologies, I treat them as urothelial carcinoma until we have prospective data showing that another regimen or something different would be better for these patients.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

Those are the patients that I get super nervous about because although they do respond well to platinum-based chemotherapy, they respond well to checkpoint inhibitors. They do have a higher rate of positive margins. They have a higher rate of recurrence. And I don't know how to better manage them with the therapies that we have right now without prospectively testing them.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

Those are the patients that I get super nervous about because although they do respond well to platinum-based chemotherapy, they respond well to checkpoint inhibitors. They do have a higher rate of positive margins. They have a higher rate of recurrence. And I don't know how to better manage them with the therapies that we have right now without prospectively testing them.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

Those are the patients that I get super nervous about because although they do respond well to platinum-based chemotherapy, they respond well to checkpoint inhibitors. They do have a higher rate of positive margins. They have a higher rate of recurrence. And I don't know how to better manage them with the therapies that we have right now without prospectively testing them.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

But I feel like those patients... do need close surveillance and may benefit from more aggressive therapy, but I don't know what that more aggressive therapy is. I do think that they need systemic therapy. So I think going straight to surgery is not the answer.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

But I feel like those patients... do need close surveillance and may benefit from more aggressive therapy, but I don't know what that more aggressive therapy is. I do think that they need systemic therapy. So I think going straight to surgery is not the answer.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

But I feel like those patients... do need close surveillance and may benefit from more aggressive therapy, but I don't know what that more aggressive therapy is. I do think that they need systemic therapy. So I think going straight to surgery is not the answer.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 193 Bladder Cancer Innovations: ESMO 2024 Highlights with Dr. Andrea Apolo

I think they need more systemic therapy probably than other patients, but how to intensify that systemic therapy, I think we need to learn that. We don't know yet.