Dr. Andrew Huberman

And I know this because I gave a talk at Santa Clara University a few years ago and I was talking about limiting social media use and phones.

And this kid came up to me afterwards.

He said, you don't get it.

Back then I was like 43.

He said, you don't get it.

He said,

For you, the phone was a thing that you like integrated into your like post-90s high school life.

Like you watched The Breakfast Club or something.

I don't know how we knew that movie.

I was like, you're right.

I did watch The Breakfast Club a bunch of times.

And he said, but for us, it's like life.

I rolled my eyes and I thought, wait, no, listen.

I'm going to listen because no one knows what it's like to be 16 years old or 24 years old in 2024, unless you're 16 or 24.

I'm like, okay, here we go.

Listen, he said, when my phone powers down, I feel the energy drain out of me.

And when it comes back up, I feel life energy come back into my body.

And I thought, oh my goodness, like we are hosed.

But that's the reality.

And I'm of the mind, you know, I was a camp counselor.